Okay folks, here's our latest double IPA hop bomb whipped up with some of those very special hops utilized in the one and only, the luscious - Hop Mess Monster v.2.0. You know the ones..... they smell like armpits and taste like sweat! No wait, my beers aren't the slightest bit salty! Really though, it's only a certain team of professional beer judges that could possibly pull comments like that out of their ass (see below).WTF does sweat taste like anyways, besides salty I mean?
And so here it is..... Hyperhidrosis DIPA, a pit-bomb brewed for and dedicated to the judging team at the 2011 Canadian Brewing Awards. Yup, you guys that sat in on the first round DIPA judging table. 0_o Oh and I have a tip for the judges too, the next time the crack of your ass is getting all wet and sweaty go ahead and have a big ol' lick, maybe, just maybe that will help get your palate in check.
Hyperhidrosis is tawny, dank and delicious with that long lupulin-draw we all seek and crave so get on it while it's fresh!
On tap Monday October 31st @ 11:00 a.m.
Enjoy!
Vital Stats:
Gravity - 17.8 P/1.073
IBUs ~ 100+ (293 theoretical)
Hop Rate – 7.3 lbs/bbl
ABV - 8.5 %
Hops - ?? and ?? (Cannot.Divulge.Secret.Sweat.Hops.)
Colour ~ 5.5 SRM
Malts - Pale Ale, Crystal 15, Munich
For any amateur brewers out there wanting to enter your beers in a competition for the sake of gaining valuable feedback from judges comments and score sheets, you may want to think again although I expect you'd see more professional and qualified results even at the homebrewing level. What you see below are the results from a National competition for professional brewers that pay a lot of money to vie for a medal. Just sayin'.
And now, on to the goods - the judges comment sheets from the 2011 Canadian Brewing Awards for North America's hoppiest beer ever brewed (that's right, I said hoppiest. Not the most bitter, that is after all, an entirely different thing), the one and only Hop Mess Monster v.2.0.
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13 comments:
Interesting and I guess commendable that such educated and dedicated palates would spend time tasting sweat and sniffing armpits so as to be able to use that experience as a way to improve their discriptive prowess in a BJP sanctioned event.... I tested a Hop Mess V2 from the archives this weekend... it was bursting with hoppy goodness which was enjoyable on the nose and remarkably balanced on the palate, with no sweaty or armpity characteristics that I could decern but I shower daily and perhaps havent developed the ability to pick out the subtle armpityness in a beer..... Im more confused now than before I tried it..... but what do I know, I'm not a armpit licker
...Now, that's a little harsh, don't you think? Clearly our friends know a thing or two about tasting sweat and sniffing armpits - They did, afterall, award Moosehead Lager a GOLD MEDAL.
Epic.
Might have just been a bad bottle.
Yep. Or six fucking bad bottles.
It's called incompetence my friend. Or perhaps lack of olfaction is better. Go check FB. AB isn't the only one that knows what's going on.
You are clearly in the wrong place to defend Jordan. I know I didn't send you a bottle as requested but I can assure you that no bottles of the Monster tasted or smelled like sweat, nor do any of the remaining bottles.
Aside from that, I'd really like to know when the last time you had a bad bottle of beer that smelled and tasted like sweat. Come on, fill us in? What chemical compound is that anyways?
As I mentioned elsewhere, it's not just the Monster judging, the entire slew of returned comments of all beers entered are so amateur and pitiful that I truly feel sorry for them. Save for a few here and there that seemed to be written by judges that actually knew their shit.
That's right, I have a palate and I know how to use it. Those that don't shouldn't be any part of this sort of competition level judging.
“Come on, fill us in? What chemical compound is that anyways?”
Isovaleric: most commonly noted as bad cheese or sweaty socks. Likely caused by old or improperly stored hops, but also noted in highly hopped beers. Intensity increases at lower pH levels.
Hope this helps, Alex
Thanks Alex. I am aware of Isovaleric acid and its commonly associated flavours and root causes.
Fortunately this beer didn't suffer from the dirty sock or aged cheese syndrome but in all honesty I have to say that I have never associated isovaleric with armpits and so the question remains, what chemical compound is that anyways?
The Monster was just that, an insanely highly hopped monster of a beer and yes, there are hints of isovaleric there. There will be in each and every beer hopped to these levels. Alas, the key point here is that the beer is delicious and doesn't taste nor smell the least bit like an armpit or sweat. Just delicious hoppy goodness with extreme malt balls to round it out.
Hope this helps!
Mmm, I never knew armpits were so tasty.
Aside from that, are the CBAs still calling themselves BJCP sanctioned? They threw out the scoring system, so I don't see how they'd still qualify.
I don't think they do Bobby. Not 100% sure but in previous years since 2008 they harped a lot about having all BJCP judges then in 2009 I think they went BJCP sanctioned but not a mention about it this year.
Agreed, armpits are tasty!
I'm not sure who the judges were on thos one, but those sheets are an embarrassment. No comments on anything, nothing constructive at all, and descriptors that just don't make sense. I'm actually an amateur and I'd never even bother writing such useless comments down. Depending on who was on the panel, the amount of experience is wuite variable and many "judges" just don't have enough experience with what is going on on e craft beer world (particularly in Ontario - although it's getting better). Chin up man - this amateur is one guy who counts himself as a fan of your beer
This is an old post, not sure if anyone will read this, but did the judges put their names on the scoresheets? That should be an absolute requirement. If they thought they indeed smelled armpits, then fine, but at least own up to it.
And when multiple judges list something odd like "armpits" or "sweat" that usually means that one of the judges influenced the others, which is a major no-no.
I have entered beers in Toronto BJCP comps and have had similarly poor judging feedback so I am not surprised. They may in fact be using some BJCP certified judges and the comp may be BJCP sanctioned, but that does not mean they are all using skilled judges.
The highest concentration of skilled, experienced and qualified BJCP judges in Canada are in AB and SK. There is no doubt about it, I enter beers in competitions across Canada, so I know. Myself in Saskatchewan, and some other judges from Alberta had offered to run the competition after the 2010 awards, but received no response.
Mark:
They switched to serial numbers for the 2011 judging, one can see why.
Perhaps if the CBAs paid the judges or at least covered their expenses they'd have some National-level judges and the outcome of these sheets would be a bit different with the comment forms actually being filled in etc.
And I have to say I agree 100% about them being influenced. I've done some judging myself and know how it rolls.
Now, the latest show of amateur behavior from the good folks at the CBAs and TAPS....
Last fall a local writer was commissioned to do a full story on the new Rockbottom Brewpub for the winter issue of TAPS, specifically my joining the team, building a new brewery et al. A pretty reasonable story to publish in Canada's Beer Magazine and some of the more interesting news on the East Coast beer scene in a while. That was before my Hyperhydrosis posting. Well what do you know? The article never made it to print! The writer received no kill notice and was initially told there would be no compensation, however a month later I believe they corrected that situation.
0_o
Keep fighting the good fight Greg!
TAPS ran an articles on the ALES club last year without even contacting us for any info. Just copied the basic info off our website and included a pic of the SK Legislative Building. That is what a grade 6 student would do for a homework assignment, not a paid professional writing an article in a national magazine.
And they ran a press release I wrote several years ago, but replaced my name with one of their staff writers.
Oh well...
Gawd man. Quite a thing, oh well is right.
We need more BJCP like you, come on out to the promised land!
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